AI's RANT - Owning a PCAR and Paying More???

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Postby cameronc08 » Tue May 22, 2007 4:06 pm

Just be happy it isn't a Ferrari. :twisted:
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Postby FastForwardWheels » Tue May 22, 2007 4:45 pm

cameronc08 wrote:Just be happy it isn't a Ferrari. :twisted:


That's what I'm talking about.... :)

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Postby AsianImage » Tue May 22, 2007 5:56 pm

FastForwardWheels wrote:ONE MORE TIME:

1) Hondas produce 10,000 CF hoods at a profit of let's say $100 per each which = 1-mil

2) Porsche produce 700 CF hoods at a profit of let's say $100 per each which = 70,000

Now take into consideration that the same amount of R&D will go into each. To make the same profits Porsche CF hoods would need to profit some $1428.57 at these "made up numbers produced" to make up the difference in neg-volume.

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I was just explaining to our newest member...he obviously didnt read the whole thread.

Your point was made and understood...still dont have to like it! grrrr!

see ya manana! :lol:
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Postby cameronc08 » Tue May 22, 2007 9:32 pm

FastForwardWheels wrote:
cameronc08 wrote:Just be happy it isn't a Ferrari. :twisted:


That's what I'm talking about.... :)

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I feel the only difference, though it uses the same system (quality over quanity, demand and supply and whatnot) is that you can get certain Porsches within a 20k price range, and yet still pay astronomical prices for cheap pieces of plastic...You cannot buy a Ferrari anywhere near this price range. No complaints though..you want a Porsche, you know what you're getting into..Such is life. :cry:
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Postby fornowh » Wed May 23, 2007 1:57 pm

Owning a Porsche has it's privileages.
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Postby FastForwardWheels » Wed May 23, 2007 6:24 pm

AsianImage wrote:
FastForwardWheels wrote:ONE MORE TIME:

1) Hondas produce 10,000 CF hoods at a profit of let's say $100 per each which = 1-mil

2) Porsche produce 700 CF hoods at a profit of let's say $100 per each which = 70,000

Now take into consideration that the same amount of R&D will go into each. To make the same profits Porsche CF hoods would need to profit some $1428.57 at these "made up numbers produced" to make up the difference in neg-volume.

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I was just explaining to our newest member...he obviously didnt read the whole thread.

Your point was made and understood...still dont have to like it! grrrr!

see ya manana! :lol:
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Postby FastForwardWheels » Wed May 23, 2007 6:25 pm

fornowh wrote:Owning a Porsche has it's privileages.


Yah, like getting screwed for a deal..... I can never take my Pcar anywhere I want to make a deal....

I also have to remove my "man ring"..... :lol:

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Postby cameronc08 » Wed May 23, 2007 11:15 pm

FastForwardWheels wrote:
fornowh wrote:Owning a Porsche has it's privileages.


Yah, like getting screwed for a deal..... I can never take my Pcar anywhere I want to make a deal....

I also have to remove my "man ring"..... :lol:

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That's a good point...Ride your bike there and speak spanish, that's what I do when I want something cheap and easy!

Is it wrong? Yes
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Postby FastForwardWheels » Thu May 24, 2007 9:31 am

cameronc08 wrote:
FastForwardWheels wrote:
fornowh wrote:Owning a Porsche has it's privileages.


Yah, like getting screwed for a deal..... I can never take my Pcar anywhere I want to make a deal....

I also have to remove my "man ring"..... :lol:

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That's a good point...Ride your bike there and speak spanish, that's what I do when I want something cheap and easy!

Is it wrong? Yes
Do I care? No


:lol: Love the look on their face when you pick up in the Porsche after the deal... ;)

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Postby Jitters » Thu May 24, 2007 1:33 pm

Unfortunately, the solution always appears to be simple as "Don't buy", however, in order for that to have any impact you would have to collectively not buy. Unfortunately, this would necesitate the combined efforts of the majority of people who purchase the product.

Theoretically, I'm sure that the majority of Porsche owners, as well as owners of any high end automobile, do not concern themselves with the cost of aftermarket goodies for their cars. Money is not an issue. However, when the minority of owners who purchase these vehicles on a shoe string budget, like me, attempt to show solidarity, the collective bargaining percentage is reduced significantly. So if you did choose not to buy, it would have minimal impact if any.

Case in point...Gas prices...How many people do you think it would take to have a significant impact on reducing the price of gas?

It would take every single person in this country. And not for just one day. I believe that if everyone (The Majority) boycotted the oil companies there could be a reduction in price. But unfortunately, people are motivated by fear. Unfortunately, we are such an oil dependant country that this would basically mean shutting down the country.

This will never happen because the oil companies know that we are a bunch of cowards who will never take a stand to make a change.

Oh, s%$#t didn't mean to go off on a tangent...

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Postby FastForwardWheels » Thu May 24, 2007 3:27 pm

Jitters wrote:Unfortunately, the solution always appears to be simple as "Don't buy", however, in order for that to have any impact you would have to collectively not buy. Unfortunately, this would necesitate the combined efforts of the majority of people who purchase the product.

Theoretically, I'm sure that the majority of Porsche owners, as well as owners of any high end automobile, do not concern themselves with the cost of aftermarket goodies for their cars. Money is not an issue. However, when the minority of owners who purchase these vehicles on a shoe string budget, like me, attempt to show solidarity, the collective bargaining percentage is reduced significantly. So if you did choose not to buy, it would have minimal impact if any.

Case in point...Gas prices...How many people do you think it would take to have a significant impact on reducing the price of gas?

It would take every single person in this country. And not for just one day. I believe that if everyone (The Majority) boycotted the oil companies there could be a reduction in price. But unfortunately, people are motivated by fear. Unfortunately, we are such an oil dependant country that this would basically mean shutting down the country.

This will never happen because the oil companies know that we are a bunch of cowards who will never take a stand to make a change.

Oh, s%$#t didn't mean to go off on a tangent...

Peace in the middle east...

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I didn't have the time to say most of this so thanks for taking the time on that one..... :) Gas prices are a great example used here.... :) Agreed

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Postby Jitters » Thu May 24, 2007 3:31 pm

Waazzzzzaaaahhhpp.....

I normally refrain from such outburst; however, I wasn't doin much so I thought I'd chime in...

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Postby fornowh » Thu May 24, 2007 9:27 pm

Feel Like wathcing MSNBC. Any good tips on the Stock Market??
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Postby FastForwardWheels » Fri May 25, 2007 9:38 am

hedi211 wrote:Hi,
I just wanted to join in on your discussion. There is accurate input from everyone. You guys all have valid facts. Yet there still seems to be one factor missing from the equation: Marketing.
The car manufacturers spend millions of dollars in marketing. They know their clientele inside out. They know the exact demographic of those person(s) buying their vehicle(s).
Sometimes, as I feel in this case with Porsche owners they simply equate quality with cost. I have seen it myself. I have seen products out there that are engineered poorly, and have insufficient data backing their products, yet they charge such a high premium price; why? because the inexperienced unknowledged enthusiasts feel that the more expensive a piece is the better quality it posses.

Just my two thoughts.
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I think you have it right when marketing such products as autos but I think big Irv really wanted to talk about CF Hoods.... :)

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