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Wow, you guys have raised some pretty valid points. However, putting all of the technical mumbo jumbo aside as well as any statistical analysis, it all boils down to one thing and one thing only..."Responibility". I don't care if it's a Ford Pinto or a Bugatti Veron, any car in the hands of an irresponsible person can be deadly, whether their 18 or 80.

When my son turned eighteen I bought him his first car, a 1999 Ford SVT Cobra. And I'm quite sure that there a few who would argue as to why I would buy a teenager a car with all that power. Simple, he asked for it. However, my son was always responsible. So there was no valid reason not to. The only ticked he ever got in the car was a fix it ticket for window tint...

With regard to age and matters of driving maturity, well, I can only speak about my own experience. As a youngster I had no fear when I was behind the wheel. I felt invinsible and would take risk that I would not dream of today (Yeah Aren, I know). Although I can drive a little fast from time to time in the PCAR, I don't have that same fearless attitude that I had when I was younger. I think more about danger and what the possible circumstances would be if something went wrong...

So although you guys both have some really valid points, the bottom line is, is the person that you're relinquishing your keys to a responsible person....

Ciao,

Jitters

Todd, this is EXACTLY what I have been trying to say. Age means nothing it's all about how responsible you are behind the wheel of the car. Sure some teens are going to wreck a 500hp car, but so are plenty of adults that die every day as a result of not being able to handle such power. I just get a little ticked when people clump all teens into a category that they aren't experienced enough..I don't think experience is as much of an issue as is responsibility.

Aren, I definitely see your point on how there are plenty of kids that don't belong behind the wheel of a car, I just feel that it has nothing to do with the age of the motorist, it's all about there.. umm, driving ethics. Let's all just agree that guys in big trucks need to get a reality check. Everyone driving a truck is a tough guy (while there inside the truck DRIVING it that is.. )

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Todd, this is EXACTLY what I have been trying to say. Age means nothing it's all about how responsible you are behind the wheel of the car. Sure some teens are going to wreck a 500hp car, but so are plenty of adults that die every day as a result of not being able to handle such power. I just get a little ticked when people clump all teens into a category that they aren't experienced enough..I don't think experience is as much of an issue as is responsibility.

Aren, I definitely see your point on how there are plenty of kids that don't belong behind the wheel of a car, I just feel that it has nothing to do with the age of the motorist, it's all about there.. umm, driving ethics. Let's all just agree that guys in big trucks need to get a reality check. Everyone driving a truck is a tough guy (while there inside the truck DRIVING it that is.. )

Hey Cam,

I agree...Responsibility is paramount. I also agree with you regard the generalization that all teenagers are irrisponsible. I'm sure there are more adult irrisponsible drivers than there are teenagers. Again, I can only speak from my own personal experience. I've been driving a very long time and I commute every day and have been doing so for quite some time. Unfortunately, most of the idiots that I've had to contend with have been adults. Of course there's the occasional occurence that will include a teenager but in most cases, again my own experience, it has been young girls...

I've been driving since I was 8 years old. I remember when I was around 9 years old we would go down south during the summer to visit my relatives. My aunt would let me take her to work, drop her off and I would have the car all day...never had any problems...

I understand that this is not the norm; however, my aunt trusted me because I was responsible....

Aren, I agree it is a different day and age that we live in and you are correct about the lack of guidance from most parents...it is definately a shame...

Well, I guess it's time to get off the old soap box and turn in...tomorrows another day...

You gentleman have an excellant evening and we'll talk again soon...

Ciao,

Jitters

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why are you guys talking in paragraphs??


can't read!! only read in school!!

Todd, you speak so eloquently. I must say it is refreshing to see you coming back and spend some time on the forum.

-aren

Hey Aren,

Thank you very much. I enjoy sharing my experiences. At the end of the day, that's all I really have. It's always been pretty difficult for me to rely soley on information that is passed on to us via the media. There are many variables involved in these types of situations that make it quite difficult in obtaining the truth as to their validity.

Demographics has a huge role in providing the samplings required to develop these statistics. So when Cam states that more adults appear to be boneheads, that's his reality, conversely, when you say more teenagers are boneheads that's your reality. Ultimately, you both are correct in your own personal assessement.

I do understand your point regarding the statistical numbers but I don't actually believe that all incidents of these types can be recorded so the results cannot really be stated as 100% accurate. JMO.

Finally, people have a tendancy to have closed minds when it comes to other points of view. For example Cam believes that more adults are idiots while you believe more teenagers are idiots...

Well, guess what! I believe more teenage girls are idiots...JME. Just kidding...

Well, I guess I should get back to work now...

Always a pleasure participating in such spirited banter...

Until next time, you have a pleasant day and I hope to see you guys soon...

Jitters

why are you guys talking in paragraphs??


can't read!! only read in school!!

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why are you guys talking in paragraphs??


can't read!! only read in school!!

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I see you speak "steve" fluently.

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