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  aren040

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This is getting to be an epidemic here lately. First it was the flying M5, then it was a disintegrated SLR, followed closely by an upended M3. It's craziness. If you have a very nice, very fast car DO NOT GIVE THE KEYS TO YOUR DUMB KID. Given the baked-in stupidity of your average teen, mixed with the "Look how cool I am" braggadocio inherent in prom night, one would think this idea would have been self-evident to the Florida family who handed over the keys to little Timmy so he could impress his prom date. We have a secret for you, Timmy's dad: If you're loaded enough to have a Porsche Carrera GT, and Timmy can't seal the deal without driving it, little Timmy is a failure.

I quoted this from the source for the truth. Seriously, when are parents going to get this damn idea. I am sick of these cars being ruined and there parents acting like it was such a surprise that their kid could not handle a 500 HP car. Come on people, what the hell happened to common sense in this country.

-aren

I dont know if this is such a bad thing. I bet in some small way, people hearing about this type of thing, affects this nations economy in a positive way. Reason being is that its 1) Totally outragous and 2) careless which can make people think the economy isnt that bad if some folks are loaning there $500k+ sports car to a teenager. Whenever i hear or see rich folks just throwing away money i notice alot of middle or upper middle class folks start to spend more money themselves to in some small way mimic the celebs and high class people they look up to. So in a way, this type of incedent might help to increase consumer spending.

I would still take that set of brakes...
still in great condition!!!

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What a waste...

I guess someone won't be having a sweet-boy-16.....

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I dont know if this is such a bad thing. I bet in some small way, people hearing about this type of thing, affects this nations economy in a positive way. Reason being is that its 1) Totally outragous and 2) careless which can make people think the economy isnt that bad if some folks are loaning there $500k+ sports car to a teenager. Whenever i hear or see rich folks just throwing away money i notice alot of middle or upper middle class folks start to spend more money themselves to in some small way mimic the celebs and high class people they look up to. So in a way, this type of incedent might help to increase consumer spending.

Honestly I don't think a couple of crashed cars here and there are going to "help" the economy as much as you think. But under that train of though we should just let people go out and damage property and put other peoples lives in danger because the general public will have to fix the damage and that will stimulate the economy.

The reality is that these parents today can not say no to their kids. I understand the whole "I want to give them when I never had" mentality, but there is a limit to it that as a responsible parent you should understand.

-aren

Ok Nancy Grace, Now your just putting a twist on my words and then punching me in the balls... why u busten mah balls Aren, why you bustin my balls.

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Because there is a definite lack of Steve around and I need someone to vent on. What can I say, you made yourself an easy target.

-aren

yes!!! im off the hook!! im not a primery target anymore...

Because there is a definite lack of Steve around and I need someone to vent on. What can I say, you made yourself an easy target.

-aren

yes!!! im off the hook!! im not a primery target anymore...

Steve you passed the torch to me. lol

This is getting to be an epidemic here lately. First it was the flying M5, then it was a disintegrated SLR, followed closely by an upended M3. It's craziness. If you have a very nice, very fast car DO NOT GIVE THE KEYS TO YOUR DUMB KID. Given the baked-in stupidity of your average teen, mixed with the "Look how cool I am" braggadocio inherent in prom night, one would think this idea would have been self-evident to the Florida family who handed over the keys to little Timmy so he could impress his prom date. We have a secret for you, Timmy's dad: If you're loaded enough to have a Porsche Carrera GT, and Timmy can't seal the deal without driving it, little Timmy is a failure.

I quoted this from the source for the truth. Seriously, when are parents going to get this damn idea. I am sick of these cars being ruined and there parents acting like it was such a surprise that their kid could not handle a 500 HP car. Come on people, what the hell happened to common sense in this country.

-aren

Give me a break. If you are wealthy enough to own a 300+k car you are going to allow your son to drive it. You don't worry about damages to the car, you have insurance for that..And an assload of money. Worrying about the safety and wellbeing of your son is one thing, but don't be a douche dad and not let your son drive your car. It's easy to say you won't let your kid drive your exotic sports car when you have the 'poor mans mentality' (and I'm not calling you poor by any stretch of the imagination, but to you and me this car is worth a shi*tload of money..to them it's like buying a Boxster). A car is a car, unless you are purchasing a collectors car to sit in the garage for 50 years, it is going to depreciate in value whether it cost 500 or 500k. You buy cars to drive, sometimes to enjoy driving depending on what you are looking for. If I could afford a Carrera GT (or whatever car I would own for that matter) I will let my son drive it if he wants, it's still a freakin car don't treat it like it's more important then your son. Now obviously you have to raise your kid to be responsible both on and off the road, but that's another story entirely. I just tire of people acting like they will never let their kids touch there cars as if there kids aren't worthy or something. Just my 2 cents, go ahead and give it to me now

Because there is a definite lack of Steve around and I need someone to vent on. What can I say, you made yourself an easy target.

-aren

yes!!! im off the hook!! im not a primery target anymore...

Steve you passed the torch to me. lol

all I have to say is: "good luck brother"

This is getting to be an epidemic here lately. First it was the flying M5, then it was a disintegrated SLR, followed closely by an upended M3. It's craziness. If you have a very nice, very fast car DO NOT GIVE THE KEYS TO YOUR DUMB KID. Given the baked-in stupidity of your average teen, mixed with the "Look how cool I am" braggadocio inherent in prom night, one would think this idea would have been self-evident to the Florida family who handed over the keys to little Timmy so he could impress his prom date. We have a secret for you, Timmy's dad: If you're loaded enough to have a Porsche Carrera GT, and Timmy can't seal the deal without driving it, little Timmy is a failure.

I quoted this from the source for the truth. Seriously, when are parents going to get this damn idea. I am sick of these cars being ruined and there parents acting like it was such a surprise that their kid could not handle a 500 HP car. Come on people, what the hell happened to common sense in this country.

-aren

Give me a break. If you are wealthy enough to own a 300+k car you are going to allow your son to drive it. You don't worry about damages to the car, you have insurance for that..And an assload of money. Worrying about the safety and wellbeing of your son is one thing, but don't be a douche dad and not let your son drive your car. It's easy to say you won't let your kid drive your exotic sports car when you have the 'poor mans mentality' (and I'm not calling you poor by any stretch of the imagination, but to you and me this car is worth a shi*tload of money..to them it's like buying a Boxster). A car is a car, unless you are purchasing a collectors car to sit in the garage for 50 years, it is going to depreciate in value whether it cost 500 or 500k. You buy cars to drive, sometimes to enjoy driving depending on what you are looking for. If I could afford a Carrera GT (or whatever car I would own for that matter) I will let my son drive it if he wants, it's still a freakin car don't treat it like it's more important then your son. Now obviously you have to raise your kid to be responsible both on and off the road, but that's another story entirely. I just tire of people acting like they will never let their kids touch there cars as if there kids aren't worthy or something. Just my 2 cents, go ahead and give it to me now

I agree with 100% of what you said for 2 reasons.
1)
If I could also afford something like a CGT like it was just another boxster for me, then yes the car wouldnt be so important to me that i wouldnt let the people I love and enjoy seeing happy drive it, I'd let them drive it just to see the enjoyment on there faces.
2)
Just because Aren doesnt agree

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But now you're generalizing. Contrary to popular belief, not every single teenager driver will drive like there trying to qualify for the next Indy 500. I would agree that you need to teach your kids the responsibilities and dangers of driving a vehicle, but if you raise your kids properly you can trust them on the road with your car. Granted I obviously wouldn't allow someone to drive a 500hp car before they ever drove another car, but it really doesn't take long (a year maybe) to really familiarize yourself with driving and how everything works. There are just as many guys on the road over the age of 30 that will drive faster and more dangerous than teenage kids. A lot of teenagers know what their driving and know the risks, while a lot of older guys think they are invincible and nothing can stop them. So I say, stop generalizing about teenage kids not being able to handle a high horsepower car, and just leave it to not letting PEOPLE who can't handle such performance cars from hurting themselves and others.

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I will still respectively disagree with you. To perfect a skill obviously takes much longer than a year.. Perhaps even a lifetime. However, to really get the feel of driving and how the roads work takes about a year. I am not saying in a year people should start trying to qualify for the Nextel Cup but yes, in a year you get the feel for driving and become comfortable with everything. And I understand that there are plenty of young drivers that think they own the road, but in my short time of driving experience I am sorry but I have seen much more older males that assume because of their age they can do anything. I couldn't tell you how many times I've almost been hit by a douche in an F350 who thinks he is driving an F430. Again I say if you teach your kid the proper respect and dangers of the road you will have absolutely no problems lending him your car. The most important thing to teach someone when driving isn't to hone their own skills but to watch for the driving of others around them. Everyday I'll see something that I say 'WTF were they thinking.' Some people just assume older people > younger people at everything. I guess we won't ever agree here but to each his own right?

And in this corner...

Wow, you guys have raised some pretty valid points. However, putting all of the technical mumbo jumbo aside as well as any statistical analysis, it all boils down to one thing and one thing only..."Responibility". I don't care if it's a Ford Pinto or a Bugatti Veron, any car in the hands of an irresponsible person can be deadly, whether their 18 or 80.

When my son turned eighteen I bought him his first car, a 1999 Ford SVT Cobra. And I'm quite sure that there a few who would argue as to why I would buy a teenager a car with all that power. Simple, he asked for it. However, my son was always responsible. So there was no valid reason not to. The only ticked he ever got in the car was a fix it ticket for window tint...

With regard to age and matters of driving maturity, well, I can only speak about my own experience. As a youngster I had no fear when I was behind the wheel. I felt invinsible and would take risk that I would not dream of today (Yeah Aren, I know). Although I can drive a little fast from time to time in the PCAR, I don't have that same fearless attitude that I had when I was younger. I think more about danger and what the possible circumstances would be if something went wrong...

So although you guys both have some really valid points, the bottom line is, is the person that you're relinquishing your keys to a responsible person....

Ciao,

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